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The podcast for leaders, change-makers, and curious humans
For leaders, change makers, and curious humans
Whether you’re a high-performing entrepreneur, an impact-driven coach, or just someone who senses there’s something more, this podcast is your invitation to explore the hidden operating system behind all human experience.
Expect real conversations with leaders, pioneers, and practitioners who’ve seen the illusion — and now live, work, and lead differently.
This podcast exists to give you the space to hear something deeper.
To get a taste of the Quality of Mind shift.
To explore what’s really creating your experience and what happens when you see through the biggest misunderstanding in modern psychology.
This isn’t mindset. It’s not self-help. It’s not a quick fix.
It’s a shift.
And because it’s different, you can’t truly get it from a 2-minute reel or an inspirational quote.
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"Not Even 5 Minutes" - Podcast Snippets
Ep10: ”The Huge Case of Mistaken Identity’’ (5min)
An excerpt from a conversation with Clare Dimond on the episode
”If We Don’t Have Free Will, What is the Point?”
Ep9: ''5 Things to Consider About Our Minds & Exploring Potential’’
An excerpt from an interview on the Limitless Lives podcast – A conversation with Nilesh Patel
- Link to the full episode
Ep 8: How did I get here?
‘‘How did I get here? Brief Overview of the path to Before Psychology”
Piers Thurston – Founder of Quality of Mind, describes his own path of coming to see that Before Psychology is the most important leverage point for us to have more performance, peace and potential
Ep7: ’’Do We Really Have Free Will?'' (5min)
An excerpt from the episode ”Can We Really Do Change? A Conversation about Free Will and Being the Doer” With regular contributor Katrijn Van Oudheudsen.
Link to the full episode
Ep6: 'The Hydrofoil on the Boat' - A Client talks (3min)
An excerpt from the episode:
The Secret Source – How Quality of Mind enabled organisational and personal transformation
Ep5: 'Unlocking Better Workshops' (6min)
An excerpt from the episode:
‘The Missing Piece in Creating Better Workshops & Meeting Outcomes” With Quality of Mind Coach – Frans Rensen
Ep4: 'Where can we seek stability?' (5min)
An excerpt from the episode ‘‘Our Innocent Mistake with Psychological Safety – Seeking Stability in an Unstable World A conversation with Joel Drazner’
Ep3: 'The Leader Role' (5min)
The importance of leaders seeing ‘You’ first
A excerpt from the episode ”What has this got to with how we communicate, lead and turn up at work?” With Clare Dimond
Ep2: 'Am I just a thought?' (3min)
Ep2: Piers talks about the self and ‘Am I just a thought?’
Ep1: The Game Changer (3min)
Ep1: Kate Adey is asked About the Game Changing Nature of Quality of Mind (3min)
Ep 20: A Business Owner Reflects on the True Impact of Quality of Mind (5min)
In this short testimonial episode, Chris, a successful business owner, shares how the Quality of Mind programme revealed a whole new way of being. Not by adding tools or strategies, but by subtracting the misunderstandings that cloud our experience, and how he wishes he’d done it sooner in life
Listen in as he reflects on:
• The surprising difference he felt
• Why even “perfect” lives can feel more free
• Amplified his sense of peace and connection
• Made time alone something to savour
• Helped him show up in life and work with more presence and joye
Ep19: Why 'Feeling Better' Is Keeping You Small (3min)
Comfort is quietly killing us. Why real freedom isn’t what we think:
From coping in the workplace to chasing emotional ease, we innocently limit our lives to what feels “safe” or “manageable.” But true freedom isn’t found in avoiding discomfort—it’s found in being free with it.
Ep18: ”What Could Make a Difference to Everything in the World?" (3min)
A 3 min snippet from the episode ”Unlocking Human Evolution: The Potential AI Revolution in Coaching” with Katrijn Van Oudheudsen. Full Episode here
Ep17: Going Beyond Sales Goals: Unconditional Freedom
A 3 min snippet from the episode ”Unlocking Human Evolution: The Potential AI Revolution in Coaching” with Katrijn Van Oudheudsen. Full Episode here
Ep16: ”Letting Go of Resistance...Is Not Compromising (2min)
A 2 min snippet from the episode ”The Business Advantage: The Secret Source to Flow & Ease with Emily Hawkins.
Full Episode here
Ep15: ”The Unreliable Mind: Why You Can't Trust Your Thoughts" (3min)
A 3 min snippet from the episode ”The Potential Hiding in the Simplicity of Before Psychology. Exploring ‘Extra-Ordinary’ & Effortlessness” with Dr Amy Johnson.
Full Episode here
Ep14: Flow State - Where Are We Going Wrong?
‘Flow State – Where Are We Going Wrong? A conversation with Tim Downes.
Listen to the full episode here
Ep13: ”The Secret Source - Before Psychology: What Do You Actually Explore?’ (6min)
Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore ‘Before Psychology’ but… …. What is that, and does it help?’
Ep12: "The Biggest Superpower for Human Potential''
An excerpt from a conversation with personal growth expert Dre Baldwin
- Link to the full episode
Ep11: ''What do we mean by Awakening?''
Ep11: “What is awakening?”
An excerpt from a conversation with Helen Amery on the episode ”Many Journeys Pointing to One Realisation – Why Are There Are So Many Different Approaches to Transformation & Human”
- Link to full episode
- Quality Of Mind
Introduction & Overview to Quality of Mind
Introduction & Overview
Some great questions from the Business Futures podcast on what is Quality of Mind & its relevance
The Role, Relevance, & Value of Quality of Mind
Introduction – What is the role and value of Quality of Mind in businesses and organisations?
A chat with best selling author Michael Neill
Why aren’t we all seeing it yet?
This episode also serves as a helpful overview as to what Quality of Mind can help with
A Conversation about Quality of Mind with 3 Business Leaders
This episode is taken from the WTF What The Future?! Podcast series. Where Piers was asked to have a real time coaching conversation with three business leaders who were keen to learn more about Quality of Mind
'Before Psychology' - What Do You Actually Explore? (6min)
Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore ‘Before Psychology’ but…
…. What is that, and does it help?’
- Workplace Topic
3. 'LOOKING AT': Workplace Topics
LOOKING AT: Listening
How does Quality of Mind see the role and key foundations of Listening?
LOOKING AT: Connection
At a time when the world is in virtual lockdown. How does an understanding of Quality of Mind help us see the role and mechanics of connection
LOOKING AT: Vision & Purpose
How does Quality of Mind address eliciting a purpose and setting vision for an organisation?
LOOKING AT: Productivity
What is the relevance to Productivity of seeing the role of Quality of Mind?
LOOKING AT: Agile Change
A chat with an Agile methodology coach who has seen the value in the understanding of Quality of Mind Agile Change
LOOKING AT: Resilience
How Quality of Mind sees resilience? How we are innocently teaching people the wrong things about resilience.
LOOKING AT: Decision Making
Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore ‘Before Psychology’ but…
…. What is that, and does it help?’
LOOKING AT: Leadership
What is the relevance to Leadership of seeing the role of Quality of Mind
- Deeper Approach
Going Deeper - The Foundations of the Approach
FOUNDATION: A conversation with Rupert Spira
The True Heart of Quality of Mind. A conversation with Rupert Spira
Our True Nature: From the Golf Course to the Boardroom
Improving on the Golf course and in the Boardroom – What do we need to realise about nature of reality and ‘ourselves’to unlock more perofrmance and wellbeing
INQUIRY: A Real time direct inquiry Exploration
Experience for yourself a real time direct inquiry exploring the nature of what we are
FOUNDATION: The distinction of Self & I
Exploring the Foundation of Quality of Mind – The case of Mistaken Identity
FOUNDATION: Real & Never True
Exploring the Foundation of Quality of Mind. The Real & Never True nature of reality
- Everyday Proof
Everyday Proof - Previous Clients Share their Benefits of QoM
Dramatic Shifts in Just 3 days
Dramatic Shifts in Productivity, Mental Wellbeing & Purpose from Just 3 Days….An interview with a workshop attendee
The life changing nature of it all
The simple, surreal, yet life changing nature of it all. An interview with a client
Dispelling the high pressure - high performance myth.
A interview with a past client: a Leading Forensic Accountant on what has changed for him since his realisations on QoM
It has changed my relationship with my business
Interview with a past client Simon Terry, owner and MD of Anglepoise Lights talks about his realisations
Organisational Transformation
A client’s Story of Personal and Organisational Transformation: Mark Lund was President McCann World Group for UK and Europe – with a remit for about 15 businesses and 5,000 people. QoM unlocked the secret source for organisational change
See the Transformation Unfold (1)
Part 1 of the ‘Behind the Scenes’ mini-series. Chats with a client before, during and after her QoM coaching
See the Transformation Unfold (2)
Part 2 of the ‘Behind the Scenes’ mini-series. Chats with a client before, during and after her QoM coaching
See the Transformation Unfold (3)
Part 3 of the ‘Behind the Scenes’ mini-series. Chats with a client before, during and after her QoM coaching
Youtube Playlist - Client Testimonials
A selection of short client video testimonials
- Coaches
For Coaches & Change Practitioners
Why exploring ‘Before Psychology‘ is so needed?
In this episode I reconnect with previous show guest Dr Amy Johnson, we discuss the highly relevant question of why we believe ‘Before Psychology’ is so necessary and powerful yet overlooked.
Transform the transformative effect of coaching
An interview with fellow coach Dominic Scaffidi. How does this understanding transform the transformative effect of coaching.
The Highest leverage point for Coaches
A discussion to explore what really makes the difference in coaching
What is the 'magic' of Quality of Mind?
What is at the core, behind the ‘magic’ of Quality of Mind? A chat with fellow corporate coach Dominic Scaffidi
Seeing Through Solidity & Limitation - Transformational Coaching
Seeing Through Solidity & Limitation – Transformational Coaching Piers and Dominic Scaffidi explore what is truly transformative about coaching from this understanding of Before Psychology and Quality of Mind. It is a deep and sometimes technical conversation about the nature of consciousness, self-limitation, and the essence of being.
Why You Can't Do Leadership Development
The Biggest Myths We Need to Unlearn about Leadership Development. A conversation with katrijn Van Ouheudsen author and coach of ‘self less’ Leadership
Global Change - It Is Not What You Think....
This episode with fellow coach and author Naphtali Visser explores how the understanding behind Quality of Mind can make a difference to society and the systems we live in
Transformation: Personal to Systemic
Transformation: Personal to Systemic- How Quality Of Mind can help Society Change. A conversation with change agent extraordinaire Garry Turner
See the Transformation Unfold (3)
Part 3 of the ‘Behind the Scenes’ mini-series. Chats with a client before, during and after her QoM coaching
The 'Secret Source' to Discipline, Structure & Success
This episode with coach Dre Baldwin, Piers takes the conversation ‘upstream’ to what Dre usually shares as they explore what is behind the creation of principles, structures and discipline needed to achieve in life. The importance of realising one’s true identity as awareness itself, rather than the separate self, to attain psychological freedom and flow.
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- Youtube Playlists
Short & Sharp – YouTube Playlists
Short Podcast Snippets
2min Tips. Explore For Yourself How Quality of Mind Increases Our Performance, Peace & Potential Every Day
Open Programme: FAQ
Learn more about Quality of Mind (2min Videos)
- Performance & Presence